>> i'm happy to say that all of a sudden everyone, governor romney, paul ryan, we're all pro union all of a sudden. >> everybody's in favor of the union. >> everybody's in favor of the union. >> don't you think that roger goodell and the owners and everyone else at this point, you know, have to -- have to cave in and do something? >> sure. >> about the replacement refs before we go through another weekend like that? >> i don't know if they can get them in even if they negotiated a settlement today. i don't know if the regular nfl refs could get back for this weekend. i think they've got to make a deal and they can get some concessions i'm sure from the union but they've got to make a deal quickly and roger goodell is really in the hot seat and this is a time when he has to lead the owners, not follow the owners. >> this is a game that's already been in some fire for injuries to players, for roughness, things like that. they don't need another problem. they better settle. >> i agree with vin. >> talking to the players rep in a moment coming up. and thanks to both of you and if you have